Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Glenn Beck's Current Take on Secession Movement

A great deal of discussion has taken place on conservative message boards today due to the fact that Glenn Beck has referred to those in twenty states who have signed petitions to “secede” from the union. These petitions seemed peculiar to me since it would be the job of their elected state legislators to secede if such an activity were to take place, not individual citizens.

As I elaborated in my video today, on his radio program Glenn has repeatedly urged listeners to move from northern states to Oklahoma and Texas. The inference is obvious.
Yet, he implies that people who see secession coming are insane.
This to me is a form of hedging that is taking place.  Later, depending on what happens, these radio hosts can all say they always said these people were kooks.  But when they see it become more inevitable as God fearing, red states defend their citizenry against brazen evil - then - the talking radio heads will go out on a limb and bravely “predict” secession.


I have been predicting secession since Obama was elected for reasons enumerated at TableOfWisdom.com and again today at the video following.  However, the way in which the possibility is being handled by signers in these twenty states is unrealistic and will not take place as a result of this apparent endeavor.

If or when it happens it will occur as a result of Obama forcing states to protect their citizens against clear  violations against the constitution.  The beginning stages where Obama has waged war against states can be seen in the lawsuits launched against Arizona for simply trying to enforce federal law in protecting its borders against outside invasion.  One can also point to Obama’s election ploy where he proclaimed that deportation laws against illegals would not be enforced.

It will get much worse once Obamacare fully kicks in over the next few years but with the aforementioned examples, one can see states exhausting all options through the legal system before they have to resort to secession.  One can see these state representatives  doing what our founding fathers did step by step through every channel before they were left with no other choice.  Our founders were mostly “loyalists” to the crown until they had no other choice.  Enter the Declaration of Independence where they expatiated in full – why they had no choice.

We have not reached that point yet, but I have no doubt in my objective mind that WE WILL.  Obama has had no other intention from day one then to FORCE this upon the states.
There are some on the conservative boards that believe that the federal government will simply implode as the currency dies, thereby preventing this from happening.  They are erroneously leaving out one important factor.  The Obama administration is rapidly seeking to empower and surrender our sovereignty to the United Nations.  This administration is treasonously participating in UN resolutions to take over our rights.

Regardless of whether this encroachment comes to full fruition before or after Bernanke prints our currency to worthlessness, they  are coming with the United Nations and nations who hold the gold – like China.


In the days of the confederacy, the states were fighting a federal government that had arrogated power onto itself that was never intended by our founders.  Similarly, the final confederacy will be fighting against a UN that was initially sold to us as a symbolic organization with no power or authority over US citizens. 

I observed a few posts by some RINO types who will no doubt be similar to the implacable loyalists who refused to see the writing on the wall to the bitter end.  One such post castigated a conservative as follows:


“As much as I don’t like the outcome of the election, I’m not ready to give up on America yet.
Anyone who wants states to leave our nation had better take a long look in the mirror. How dare you disrespect the sacrifices of our fallen veterans who gave their lives for America. And you call yourselves Patriots...I would use a different term...Quitters.

If you want to leave America, then I suggest you follow in the footsteps of the forefathers you constantly use as an example and go find your own island, move there, and start your own nation. Leave America for the Americans. We may be a flawed nation, but I’d rather live in America than anywhere else in the world...including your new nation.”

We are seeing this type of rhetoric from some of the very people, including talk radio hosts who were the very people who were telling us that this election is for the fate of our nation since it was all coming down to this election since John Roberts left it to the electorate to overturn Obamacare.  Now, when push comes to shove, it seems their stance has morphed into the old "well there's always next election".  Presumably they are now in denial and are conning themselves into the notion that once the kids and unmarried women suffer through four more years of Obama - THEN they will finally see the error of their ways and then elect the next Romney, McCain or Dole (as though that would save us). 

What would it take to stop these RINOs from deluding themselves?  Will they still be telling us "wait until 2016 as they are handcuffed to a pole in Gitmo?

I would agree these people should not be doing this because it is up to their sovereign states to handle this. From that standpoint, they should be petitioning their state legislatures, not the federal government.


It is also too soon.

Where I disagree with the sentiments is in his perspective about them being unpatriotic.  These
common assertions sound like sanctimonious platitudes that would fly 10 years ago but not now.

I’m not shouting but need to capitalize this for emphasis.

THE UNITED STATES FOR WHICH YOU AND I LONG NO LONGER EXISTS.  THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEGAN SECEDING FROM THE CONSTITUTION BEGINNING AT LEAST IN 2008.
THE ELECTORATE HAS CHANGED. THE DEGRENERATE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN OF THE BOOMERS -SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY!!!

DELUSIONAL ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS ARE IN DENIAL.

THE “BLUE DOG” DEMOCRATS ARE DEAD AND THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK – SO STOP DELUDING YOURSELF INTO THINKING THEY WILL BE BACK IN 2016.

OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN OUTPOURING OF EVIL THAT WILL DEMAND CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE UNLESS YOU ARE EVIL YOURSELF.

THEN - STATE LEGISLATURES (RED) WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE (LIKE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, THE WAY THEY EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE THE DECLARATION).
I LIKE BECK - BUT HE IS WRONG ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HE IS UNDERESTIMATING THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION.

MARK MY WORDS, A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW HE WILL BE TELLING US HOW HE PREDICTED SECESSION EARLY ON – BECAUSE HE WILL PREDICT IT ONCE OBAMACARE KICKS IN AND HE SEES HOW WICKED IT TRULY IS.

IT IS INEVITABLE - BUT NOT NOW AND NOT BY PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IS NOT TO DO THE WORK OF THEIR ELECTED STATE LEGISLATORS.
To the RINOs like the loyalists to the crown who cannot part with the gravy train from which they make their fortunes, I offer this favorite quote of mine by Samuel Adams written to the loyalists  who put their status quo first - rather then the principles enumerated by our founding fathers:
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
As for me I stand for the constitution, which is the true America that our founders created 236 years ago.  America is NOT a government that murders babies, the handicapped and the elderly.  America is NOT a government that sees its citizens as mere resources to be disposed of the moment they deem them a burden.

1 comment:

  1. Hello sir, I mean no disrespect... only wish to point out that you put words in Glenn's mouth in the article... he said it was insane to "sign" a petition for secession. You are intelligent enough to realize that such a list of names would be of interest fascistic out of control government such as our own. Glenn wants the country to stay together if at all possible without compromising the values that made us a great nation in the first place, as it seems you do; you are correct that the federal government is the one currently "seceding". In no way did Mr. Beck imply that the idea of secession as a possibility of actually happening at some point was insane, only that such a scenario would be undesirable in the sense of pushing for it prematurely in the form of a "protest petition" or whatever it was. His inference is obvious, you are correct in that and Glenn knows that, hence the inference was made... I wish I could move to Texas now myself, but I do not want to leave family here in florida...hopefully the snowbird progressives will not cause my state to follow Obama. The whole point of the inference is obvious -Glenn is not in denial of that all. If it comes to that, it comes to that, but Glenn and any sane American would prefer that the country exhaust every effort to return to the Constitution before entertaining the idea of breaking up the Union. God forbid... but the American care-free culture is such that an apathetic stupor seems to have set in so that we are practically begging for chains. Glenn knows we are asleep and I hope along with him that the bullhorn of The Blaze network wakes enough folks up -no one else has such an infrastructure or potential for reaching the masses like he does as he is much more than a mere "radio talk show host", but perhaps you just don't like him... I don't know, but positionally you seem to completely agree with him in your video. Mark Lavine is great, but he is only a radio talk show host, not an independent owner of a television and radio network. I did enjoy your video and agree with you (other than your take on Beck himself) that he would "come around" he is all over and on top of it and has been all the time. He is not perfect obviously and I am no "fan boy" of sort or LDS, I just respect him because he is the guy that woke me up years ago. God bless you and keep speaking out.

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